Thirty-three years have passed since the families of the victims in Peru’s La Cantuta case began their tireless struggle for memory, truth, and justice.

In this episode, Gisela Ortiz speaks with Carmen Amaro Cóndor about the journey these families have undertaken, the progress achieved and setbacks endured, and the wounds and dangers reopened by the amnesty law—a law that seeks to shield those responsible from accountability and that the families continue to confront with collective action, courage, and love for those they have lost.

This conversation is an invitation to confront our history directly and to commit ourselves to making “Never Again” a reality.